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Champions' League Final

Posted By: DOXARAS-4-
Date: 12 May 02, 6:41 pm

Some thoughts about this big match:
First of all let me tell you my American friends that there are teams in Europe,many of them, that seem to work on great losses,instead of profits.That would seem very weird for an American professional team on most sports (leagues),but seems a very common thing with European soccer clubs.Especially in southern countries,like mine (Greece),Italy (very much) and Spain (alot) there are teams that seem to work on great losses.In most cases they actually aren't that bad,because of fixed games and of political influence their people get.I know that most of you will argue that there really are fixed games,but trust me this is another world here and in case you were really following betting in these leagues you woulda know this for sure.Try Italy's Serie B for example.
My point is that there is no force in this earth that would persuade me that Real Madrid is not one of the 'dirtiest' clubs in the world (and Barcelona FC has been even dirtier all these years and perhaps is still).I have tons of indicators about this.

Anyway,the reason I am telling you all these is that unfortunately where Real Madrid is competing it would be wiser that you avoid put your money (as I have been doing most of the year).Except for games that the public think they can go either way when you should perhaps bet them.Where the games may be fixed,you cannot win,unless you really have inside information.But most of the times you will think you have it and will actually not have it and the juice will kill you over time.

If you are a soccer fun,you can't resist putting a bet for this game though.So,what should we play??? There are two cases:
a)The true case:You never know with Real,not only do they have the players to win it,not only are they a greater club,but they could as well have 'arranged things', such as referees,opponents etc to help them win it.So,do you bet them?No.I am sure they have great chances,but no,the odds aren't worth it at all.
b)The second case is that this world is made by angels and that European soccer betting depends only on the teams and their characteristics,etc,etc,etc.In this case Leverkusen at +400 (Pinnacle) is a good bet.Or Leverkuzen to win it at +200. (includes overtime).I will give you some betting info about this match but want to alarm you once again that you should not look things exactly the way you look American leagues.here we go:
Real Madrid is the team that has won 8 out of 11 finals for the Champion's League.In terms of that it is the best club in Europe,or the entire world.Leverkuzen has never even won the German Liga's champion (Bundesliga).They appear to everyone as a smalltime club (losers for the public) and perhaps they really are.I think they really were as a matter of fact.The whole truth is that they have been a smalltime club generally until Bayern (the pills company) decided to give them huge badgets and buy them expensive players (Brazilians Lucio,Ze Romberto etc).Now that they perform very well they actually have too few players of really high standards.That results of the same 13-14 players playing all the games and that cost them the Bundesliga and perhaps the german Cup (played yesterday).

Real Madrid has some players with the heart of the Champion,some of the world's greatest players like Zidane and Figo (also Raul).However Zidane and Figo have never won the Champuion's League.Another player who is a REAL CHAMPION FOR SURE is Roberto Carlos,a true winner.On the other hand Leverkuzen's Ballack is great too but lacks the championships and Cups of the above referred.

Players missing:Nothing special for Real,Nowotni for Leverkuzen and midfielder Ze Romberto.Even if there were 10 people out for Real that would be little problem,whilst Leverkuzen has a problem on the Ze Romberto loss,but I think this isn't the type of player you miss in a final,but one that is more important in league games.

The teams theirselves:This is the trick.This is the only point where a Leverkuzen bettor would count on.It is insane,but I have watched Real in many many games this year and they really don't play well (in Spanish La Liga).It sure has to do with the poor coach they have,but I am sure there is a reason for them having such poor managers (Barcelona as well).Whatever the reasons,they just don't perform.It is clear even for schoolboys that the players they ot can make EVERYTHING THEY WANT on the pitch,allmost all of them KNOW THE GAME INSIDE OUT,THEY COULD HAVE FORMATED the best team of all times.Yet they haven't.On the other hand Leverkuzen may only have like 13-14 players of really high standards but they really perform.They are a great team.Real could play for 1000 and they play for like 50.Leverkuzen could play for 100 and they play for like 85 if you know what I mean.

Bottomline:If it hadn't been for Roberto Carlos (he performs even when playing hith his childs I guess) I woulda bet on Leverkuzen,because huge public money will be against them.But he is there.Oops one more:Real is generally less tired,don't know how significantly.

Now,I will only bet very very few on Leverkuzen,so that I buy beer and pizzas for the buddies if they win:)))
Ok a little more perhaps.There are no correlated parlays in soccer for score/side.In case you find some Real parlayed with the over is a lock.This is the only money I could ever put on them because there is allways the chance they overperform.

Messages In This Thread

Champions' League Final -- DOXARAS-4- -- 12 May 02, 6:41 pm

clarification please -- ricky -- 12 May 02, 11:02 pm

Clarifications... -- DOXARAS-4- -- 13 May 02, 4:44 pm

is fixed games predictable -- ricky -- 13 May 02, 11:36 pm

Hmmmm.... -- DOXARAS-4- -- 18 May 02, 10:10 pm

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