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yes, Martin viewed it as an "investment" more importantly

Posted By: papa joe
Date: 19 Jul 03, 12:23 pm

In Response To: I do not think we met (Ben)

a way to laundry dirty money and justify his illegal activity as he "was helping out the kids in the neighborhood". In such a way he avioded people blowing the whisle on him. Martin was a classic wanna-a-B, just as some(lol) NBA player are mary-joe fans.

I think the initial $20 here and $20 there were innocent, but when Weber took substaintal amounts, he not only knew it was wrong, knew Martin expected a payment in kind upon his turning pro, but more importantly and what has been lost in the story is that Webber and all the other players knew THE SOURCE of the money. No, no, no, not a hip mag, rather it was dirty gambling money.

A point of interest for those of you who like unraveling fixes, look back at UofM's 1998-1999 season. In paticular, an NIT loss where UofM was trailing by 8 points with less than 10 seconds left to play, (I btw bet on UofM +10) Well, guess what happened? UofM player intentionally fouled the opp from behind, two frethrows later and UofM failed to cover.

Sure, Martin helped out "Lot of players", even one's not projected to make it to the pros!!! I am not allegin any wrong doing on anyone's part, please let me stress that point in ending.

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Let's Discuss the MAC! (nt) -- Ben -- 16 Jul 03, 1:47 pm
Marshall wins again, zzzzzz -- papa joe -- 16 Jul 03, 3:22 pm
Marshall hosts Toledo 9/12 -- Colin Caster -- 16 Jul 03, 3:35 pm
Don't think they will beat Pit -- StevieY -- 16 Jul 03, 4:19 pm
Could be a good game -- Colin Caster -- 16 Jul 03, 4:40 pm
Pitt is in the race for #1 in the Big Least (nt) -- Ben -- 16 Jul 03, 4:47 pm
Well put. They might win it all *next year* (nt) -- Colin Caster -- 16 Jul 03, 5:08 pm
GOY in MAC involves Miami Ohio -- Ben -- 16 Jul 03, 4:49 pm
Ewww. Think so? -- Colin Caster -- 16 Jul 03, 5:06 pm
4-1 before Marshall -- Ben -- 16 Jul 03, 5:11 pm
Sorry, I had Cincy as a conference game -- Colin Caster -- 16 Jul 03, 5:31 pm
My opinion, Stan Hill sux, they will struggle on the road (nt) -- Ben -- 16 Jul 03, 5:33 pm
marshall +13 vs Tenn...you are dreaming try +9 1/2 (nt) -- papa joe -- 17 Jul 03, 9:48 am
actually I think +13 is right on the money (nt) -- Mr. Tomasulo -- 17 Jul 03, 4:21 pm
They were bigger dogs than that at Va. Tech last year (nt) -- TrendMan -- 17 Jul 03, 4:48 pm
Marshall - Overrated - Just 11-19 ATS L3Y -- Ben -- 16 Jul 03, 5:08 pm
Stan Hill -- Ricky -- 17 Jul 03, 4:22 am
Okay, You asked for it. -- Ben -- 17 Jul 03, 3:07 pm
Ohio U - Bobcats are Undervalued -- Ben -- 17 Jul 03, 3:02 am
good one--two possible others -- Mr. Tomasulo -- 17 Jul 03, 7:44 am
Akron - Undervalued Also, Frye better than that joker at Michigan -- Ben -- 17 Jul 03, 3:23 pm
Not quite -- StevieY -- 17 Jul 03, 4:26 pm
I think LY Iowa showed me all I needed to know -- Ben -- 17 Jul 03, 4:42 pm
They never covered as road favs with anyone at QB -- StevieY -- 17 Jul 03, 4:55 pm
Bo begat G. Moron who drank "Cordova" Carr to the Head Spot -- Ben -- 17 Jul 03, 5:21 pm
The story at Michigan -- StevieY -- 17 Jul 03, 5:49 pm
I concur once again, I appreciate the banter -- Ben -- 17 Jul 03, 6:59 pm
Webber -- StevieY -- 18 Jul 03, 6:28 am
StevieY a few things -- papa joe -- 28 Jul 03, 4:47 am
Answers -- StevieY -- 28 Jul 03, 7:26 am
Y a ? -- Ben Dover -- 28 Jul 03, 3:12 pm
Kent/Akron -- StevieY -- 28 Jul 03, 3:46 pm
Thx for the MAC take. -- Ben Dover -- 28 Jul 03, 5:53 pm
Good points, but... -- StevieY -- 28 Jul 03, 6:36 pm
Only ESPN will deny the refs had MSU on the ML:) -- Ben Dover -- 28 Jul 03, 7:21 pm
CMU/UM -- StevieY -- 29 Jul 03, 10:39 am
Ben, I had a conversation with someone at the Dust about MSU about 4 years -- papa joe -- 18 Jul 03, 2:16 pm
I do not think we met -- Ben -- 18 Jul 03, 4:42 pm
yes, Martin viewed it as an "investment" more importantly -- papa joe -- 19 Jul 03, 12:23 pm
Michigan -- Dave -- 28 Jul 03, 1:24 pm
Kent State - High Hopes, Should have HUGE value after LY Can they execute? -- Ben -- 17 Jul 03, 3:32 pm
So no one likes Buffalo (nt) -- Ben -- 17 Jul 03, 3:47 pm
no where to go but up :) -- Mr. Tomasulo -- 17 Jul 03, 4:26 pm
Sometimes returning starters is a bad thing :) (nt) -- StevieY -- 17 Jul 03, 4:27 pm
true -- Mr. Tomasulo -- 17 Jul 03, 4:29 pm
ah, wonderful to goto such a good school -- StevieX -- 30 Jul 03, 5:38 am
No one has mentioned UCF? (nt) -- TrendMan -- 24 Jul 03, 1:41 pm
I got sidetracked, they were next (nt) -- Ben Dover -- 24 Jul 03, 1:52 pm
UCF - Loaded -- Ben Dover -- 28 Jul 03, 3:10 pm
No one mentioned NIU and they are picked to win the conference by coaches -- Billy Ford -- 25 Jul 03, 3:12 pm
The other side of the MAC is still to go (nt) -- Ben Dover -- 28 Jul 03, 7:22 pm
they are recruiting the Chicago crop, it will pay dividends this year (nt) -- papa joe -- 29 Jul 03, 4:07 am

 


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